tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18400942.post4743791915131451172..comments2023-10-14T03:18:02.769-07:00Comments on Diary of a Poker UNprofessional: GC Last Night, a.k.a. SurrealismSeanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01776475757665229021noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18400942.post-86986304080006065242008-02-08T10:13:00.000-08:002008-02-08T10:13:00.000-08:00On KQs hand -- I knew he was aggressive and would ...On KQs hand -- I knew he was aggressive and would lead out again 99% of the time. That was a big part of my decision. I think both lines can be argued for though. I would lead into a tight player or on a really scary board.<BR/><BR/>On the AA hand, I think I confused you on the action. The turn when check, I bet, guy to my left made a really slow call (of weakness, he'd been calling down often), and then the guy to my right check-raised. So, no, I wasn't worried at all about the guy to my left. He had a draw or weak pair at best.<BR/><BR/>The more I think about it, the guy to my right is check-raise happy. I'll have to keep that in mind (he's probably been at my table maybe 1/4 of the time I've played at GC... overall!).Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01776475757665229021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18400942.post-87351434792222457802008-02-08T10:04:00.000-08:002008-02-08T10:04:00.000-08:00KQs: The thing is... you are in EP. You can't be...KQs: The thing is... you are in EP. You can't be sure if the PF raiser will bet if you check or raise/call if you lead out. The decision to lead out or check(w/the intention of CR) is really read dependent. Here I prefer the lead out bc:<BR/><BR/>1) You don't know that the 2 players behind him will fold to 1 bet. So, you want to use the PF raiser to knock them out. But this IS contingent on your read. If the PF raiser is aggressive, he may just raise and put pressure on the players for you. Though... I can see good reasons for a check as well since the flop looks pretty safe so a CB is likely. ok... checking is better. Also... you have to call the turn bc again you can't narrow down GC hands that well. There are players at GC who go crazy on the flop.<BR/><BR/>KK: We've talked a lot about the weird hands people limp with. I think they take a few bad beats w/QQ, JJ, AQ, etc... and figure it's better to wait to see the flop. Result... they give up a huge equity advantage (but I'm guessing they don't think in terms of pot equity). For example, last time I played the SB thought for like 15 seconds before CALLING a 3-bet PF w/6 players. He had AA! Would you really consider just calling w/AA? A woman asked him after about it and he said he's had so many bad things happen to him w/AA against large fields. I think we all forget the good things that happen.<BR/><BR/>AA: Oh I didn't consider the paired board. You have 4 outs (maybe only 2), so yeah... you still don't have the odds. It's not a huge mistake if you call as long as you can be sure you won't get reraised. If you're not afraid of the lead-out bettor, then sure go ahead call.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18400942.post-33086873221363488112008-02-08T09:44:00.000-08:002008-02-08T09:44:00.000-08:00Scary Thuan -- most of your lines are right on...A...Scary Thuan -- most of your lines are right on...<BR/><BR/><B>AQo</B>: It was one of those situations where I hated my hand, couldn't really raise for value, but couldn't really fold either. So I called, and folded a missed flop.<BR/><BR/><B>AA</B>: Nope, I didn't have the Ah, otherwise the decision would be easy. I wasn't concerned in the least about the guy to my left (he was weak, I could tell). The real question was if the guy to my right was check-raising the flush, and quite honestly, I couldn't picture him check-raising anything else. I just didn't see the guy check-raising a 6 (or having a 6) in that spot, although I guess it is possible. He was also passive, I didn't really see him making a check-raise with trips there. So I thought for a long while and... called.<BR/><BR/>I just wasn't strong enough to lay down AA in that spot given those odds (10:1). The paired board actually helped me in that spot, although I didn't think about it then: if he had a flush, either an ace or a 6 was good, giving me 4 outs, which is 11:1. I think it was -EV overall since he could have had trips or a full-house, but not very. I'll have two outs against anything but quads, so I'm not losing too much.<BR/><BR/>The guy behind me folded (!). The river came another heart, and he lead into me. This really confused me. If he had a low flush, that card should have scared the hell out of him. So I called there too (although even if a heart had come, I still probably would have called to catch a possible bluff). He had K2h.<BR/><BR/><B>KQs</B>: I'm not sure I like leading in this spot. If I have him beat, he'll just call and I'll be out of position against a huge field. The woman between us (a dealer on the day shift) was really loose too. I figured a check-raise would at least put pressure on her, or I could check-raise the turn if a bunch of people called and I improved. Also, the check-raise would define his hand. The way it went down, I didn't mind my play too much. Obviously, the two lines are up for debate, and I know I do too much checking from early position.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I called the turn for exactly the reason you gave -- I had a gutshot at minimum, plus we might have a tie or he could have a slightly worse hand. And yeah, that locked me into calling the river.<BR/><BR/>The odd part was on the river, I checked to him, and he bets, saying "I know you don't have anything." I was already putting my money in and wasn't going to fold now, but that's usually a huge tell for a strong hand (trying to talk someone into a call). Then he asked if I had a pair and I knew I was good. I didn't force him to show his hand, just took the pot. <BR/><BR/>The really interesting thing for me on this hand was that my flop check-raise induced a three-barrel bluff (or semi-bluff). I'm sure the time I took on the turn helped too. In this spot against this opponent, I think inducing the bluff was way more valuable than leading out.<BR/><BR/>KK: I took the exact line you recommended. I call the flop (I won't get rid of anybody anyway) and raised the turn when a blank came (no flush). He just called. On the river, the board paired, and he checked and I bet. He check-raised? I called getting 15:1 (although this might be a spot I can let go, can't imagine this guy would bluff-raise from what I've seen). He showed QQ...<BR/><BR/>My bet on the end was a value bet. I honestly thought I had the best hand on the turn (not sure if a straight was possible, but it probably was). How he limps in MP with QQ pre-flop and then slows down with top set in that spot on the turn is beyond me... Then, he gets in a check-raise? Although he check-raised me earlier with the flush, so I guess I've got to watch out for that from him (and if he leads out, assume he doesn't have a monster).Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01776475757665229021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18400942.post-79438867579223885832008-02-07T00:16:00.000-08:002008-02-07T00:16:00.000-08:00Wow! Fun night! Wish I coulda been there. Ok......Wow! Fun night! Wish I coulda been there. Ok... my opinions:<BR/><BR/>AQo: Ok... well UTG may be a good player, but how good is your read on his raising hands from UTG? It's a rare player that will only raise JJ-AA, AK, AQ. If your read is that certain, then a fold is in order. Otherwise, with AQo, I don't mind a call or raise... lean toward a call because you won't eliminate anyone, you are OOP, and given the strength of UTG, you may not have that much of an equity advantage.<BR/><BR/>AA: Do you have Ah? I assume not since you're asking. Bet, call, raise is tough. Someone has at least two pair and most likely better. Sometimes, you are gonna have to lay down the best hand and this is a tough one bc it's AA, but you gotta do it. More than likely someone has a 6 and someone has a flush. The best situation you are in is that you are up against AT, KQ, and a flush draw, but you will lose in this case often anyway. Drop it and move on.<BR/><BR/>KQs: Yes, reraise from the BB. Anyway on that flop, you need to lead out. Why? Hope the PF raiser raises to make it incorrect for gut shots behind him to call. Anyhow... yeah you're most likely beat (either AK, JJ), but I think your gutshot is clean, so I would call the turn (which also commits you to calling the river). I don't think I'm good enough to lay down here. <BR/><BR/>KK: If you are ahead, it's by a slight margin, so missing a value raise here is only a small mistake. Besides, a raise won't knock anyone out. I would just call. If the turn is not a club, I would raise any bet. On the turn, you have much more equity over flush draws, so it would be a big mistake not to value raise. The EP guy might just have KQ, AQo, QJ, etc...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com